Water Street Townhomes – Firemen, EMS & Fire Sprinklers

Plymouth Fire & EMS at Water Street Townhomes for a framing tour

Last Month, Chief Holm, allowed us to host the Plymouth Fire Department for a tour of Water Street Townhomes in Plymouth. This was done over three days to cover all three fire department shifts.

We have done this in the past at Sand Hill Farm Apartments and The Paddocks in Culver. We also did this at LaPaz Commons in LaPaz. We generally try and do this at least once during the framing stage so the fire fighters get the opportunity to observe how the framing goes together in case the worst happens and they are fighting a fire in the building or rescuing someone. We generally try and invite EMS as well since it’s a good opportunity to see how to access the building.

In the case of Water Street Townhomes, we showed them where the electric service entrances are with the associate disconnects, where the electrical panels are, where the Knox Box will be and other pertinent information. For emergency access we showed why entrance from the rear might be a better choice due to tight access with a 90 degree turn at the front door.

The buildings are wood framed using modern framing techniques such as engineered wood products. They react differently in a fire than dimensional lumber. We also have 2-hour rated, double 2 x 4 stud, insulated fire walls between the units. These walls have minimal penetrations and have two layers of Type X, fire rated drywall on each side.

In the commercial space on the end, we were required to install sprinklers on the second-floor apartments because those units were over commercial space. While showing this to the firemen, one of the firemen asked why the entire building wasn’t sprinkled? Ah! A teaching moment!

As discussed in this post last week, municipalities charge a fee for buildings to have a sprinkler system. This is a somewhat random fee, for no actual service. Plymouth Water Department Utility Superintendent, Donnie Davidson, said this when asked what the fee covers: “What service is provided is providing water and pressure to the system, the city does nothing else. Everything from the property line is private.”

I took the opportunity to suggest the fireman advocate for the removal of this fee. Municipalities should be doing things to encourage fire sprinkler systems, not discourage them. In the case of Water Street Townhomes, the cost to sprinkle the two 1-bedroom units is $15,800. This is just the installation fee, then there is the $1,500 tap fee and the $537 annual inspection fee. Now on top of all of that, Plymouth charges $54 in its annual Fire Sprinkler Fee. The fee goes up by line size, so this is low as a 1-1/2″ line. Culver would charge their current flat fee of $1,200 + tax (or the new proposed fee of $2,199 + tax) for these two apartments, just as they would for 8, 24, 100 units, etc.)

There is a cost to install the fire walls between the units too, but it is a one-time cost which is less than the cost of installing a fire sprinkler system. (It also does double-duty by providing sound dampening between units.) I won’t leak or require maintenance or inspections. It is one and done. Is the protection as good as what you get with a fire sprinkler system? Probably yes as far as unit to unit spread, but probably not for saving the unit that catches fire. Plus, much more water is used in fighting a fire from the exterior of a building than that used to when a fire sprinkler system douses the fire at the source when it first starts. But as demonstrated with the two flats at Water Street Townhomes, this is only a solution when there is a horizontal division of units, not a vertical division.

I hope the fire fighters I spoke to speak up to City officials and suggest that this fee be removed. The huge and unjustified increase being contemplated in Culver is why these types of fees are scary to developers and building owners. The fact that they are a regressive fee on renters and discourage additional protection for fire-fighters just adds to the negatives.

Water Street Townhomes Update

I’ve been remiss in posting project updates, but you can always see what’s been posted in the past using the search box at that shows up on most pages. You can click here and see what’s been posted.

This project has had some struggles getting off the ground. Despite having funds from READI and the City of Plymouth to invest, getting a construction loan and securing permanent financing proved a challenge. Construction costs remain high and getting to an acceptable debt service ratio was challenging. We spoke to nine financial institutes before settling on Interra Credit Union for this project. Even after making that decision, the commitment process was slow. All of the financial institutes seem skittish about committing to long term financing in the current market.

Jeff Houin, Taryn MacFarlane, Randy Lehman, Kevin Berger, Lynn Gorski, Mayor Robert Listenberger, Don Ecker,Brent Martin, Linda Starr, Dave Morrow, Mike Miley, Alan Hauger

We have made our first draw request to READI on January 15th and currently are being told it may be another 30-45 days before we see funds released. We made our first draw request to the City of Plymouth on January 8th to start the process for approval with the Redevelopment Commission meeting on the 21st, but despite approval there, the bond fiduciary has not released funds to us. It is hard to complain about the injection of funds that make this project possible, but the delays mean we will incur additional interest expense to cover costs until the payments come in.

We broke ground on the project December 17th, 2024. Those gold shovels have traveled to a lot of sites over the years! Mayor Listenberger asked us to delay actual construction until after Christmas to keep the parking lot open for holiday shopping. We literally broke ground December 26th, with excavation starting that day.

Progress as of 1-27-25

Excavation is mostly complete for the building footprint. We have been fortunate that most of the debris we have uncovered has been relatively easy to remove. As always, there was some “fun” stuff, like an active waterline that ran back under the parking lot, through the excavation, from Water Street before it was capped. That made for a muddy day before being resolved. As of now, footings are in place for the townhomes and a large percentage of the basement walls are complete. We should see basement waterproofing start this week and backfill shortly after that. We’re working through the framing shop drawings to get the wall panels released.

We are still looking for completion in late Fall of ’25. We would love to accelerate that if we can!