The Culver Redevelopment Commission met last night and there was discussion on The Dunes project. There was a public hearing as they were entering a subrecipient agreement with the Town of Culver. (I always find these things amusing, where the Town Council comes hat-in-hand to request money from the Redevelopment Commission. Ummm… The Town Council are the elected officials that answer to the voters! They appoint the Redevelopment Commission members. If there is any issue with the CRC supporting the TOC, then there should be some reappointments made ASAP! Ha!)
The meeting was a little frustrating as there were no plans or even preliminary plans for The Dunes that they could share. They only shared verbal descriptions of what some of them had seen. The only new information that was shares was: a) The scope has increased to “300 doors” and b) the Town’s commitment to this will be greater than the $1.3MM originally contemplated in the READI grant application. My concern is that we’re getting a long way down the line without knowing what we’re doing. I had to leave the meeting early because of another commitment. I ran into a Town Council member outside who made the comment, “This isn’t like your project where we knew everything up front and knew what we were signing up for.” Well, Yeah!? Why not???
I keep coming back to The Dunes representatives being very careful with their wording. To paraphrase, “The capital contributions from the Town of Culver and READI will reduce the construction costs, but the housing created will be market rate housing.”
Market Rate = What the Market will Bear… I thought that was salient last night as there will be no requirements on the developer regarding costs. The development agreement that kicked off Sand Hill Farm Apartments included several cost controls and included requirements for 12-month leases among other things. It seems they have chosen not to pursue those this time. They (CRC) were even hesitant to use the term work-force housing as they said that it implied that it was subsidized. Ironically, wasn’t the whole reason for this discussion the subsidy they were giving? At the lowest point, the subsidy proposed is $2.6MM made up of $1.3MM from the Town of Culver and $1.3MM from READI.
A key point that was emphasized last night was that increasing the number of available housing options should bring down the cost of housing in Culver. Part of the audience’s concern was that the word “should” has been variously substituted with “could” and “ought to” and has included qualifiers like “hopefully”, “theoretically”, “ideally”, etc. This is an experiment.
In general, I am not opposed to The Dunes project and agree with the Town’s premises on increased housing options being needed. The current trends toward Culver having too many “second homes”, probably won’t be stopped by this, but could be affected by it. I am more concerned about my perception of a lack of vision for its effects. I’ve written about some of this before, but to reiterate:
I am not one to say we’re moving too fast on this. Time is money and as discussed last week, the numbers being discussed from the READI application are stale as they were put together a year ago. Blame who you like (I have my opinions), but inflation in construction costs is real. I am pleased that the Town has hired financial consultants to make sure the monetary side of this makes sense. I think they are missing a key component by not hiring an urban planning consultant to provide input. This is a major change to the community and all available expertise should be brought into this decision.
Those interested should be at the Town Council meeting tonight where there will be another public hearing on this issue. As the council member I spoke to said, “Bring a cushion…”
Every once in a while when I’m searching for something in the ECC blog, something from the past catches my eye. I ran across a post I made when Jack Jordan was running against Jackie Walorski for the 2nd District congressional seat. I made a salient observation in that post… “He (Jack) has the basic Republican positions, but with a strong “anti-politician” message. One of his issues is term limits and he has promised no more than three terms. I wish I could believe in that… I want to believe in that… It seems though, that those that run for political office quickly become politicians. The number of incumbent politicians that believe in term limits is significantly less than those using that platform plank in their first run for office.”
The above commitment referenced serving the 2nd District in Congress, which are two year terms. State Representatives run for 2 year terms too. Jack is in his 4th term and it looks like he’ll be running for a 5th term.
A notice of a Culver Town Council Work Session came out Friday, August 4th, with the agenda listed as, “The Culver Town Council will meet to discuss goals and expectations.”
Since I have been serving on the Steering Committee for the new Culver Comprehensive Plan, I thought this would be of interest and expected there to be a full house. Because of the early time, I tried to listen in on Teams and attempt a bit of multi-tasking. Unfortunately, Teams failed again, with the sound going out about 10 minutes in. I was the only one online and after Karen (Clerk Treasurer) jumped through hoops to try and get it working for me for about 10 minutes, I told her I would just come down to the Town Hall.
I was a little surprised and disappointed when I got there that I ended up being the only one in the audience that wasn’t an elected official or an employee. Later on Karen said she had organized this as somewhat of a bonding meeting for the Council and the new Town Manager, so that made me feel a bit better about the low turnout. That doesn’t really excuse the public (and the candidates for these offices) for not getting involve. It was also an important meeting that received no press coverage…
There were several topics discussed, so I’ll hit the high points and my thoughts on them.
All in all this was a good meeting. I would have liked to have seen more participation, but I’m sure it was helpful to the new Town Manager and I’m hopeful that it was a move in the right direction for meeting Karen’s goal of reminding them of their common cause of making Culver better.
I think I have written on this before (when the middle school gym was built), but my search capabilities weren’t sufficient to find the previous post. This is dating myself and includes some historic ramblings, so here we go…
I didn’t see any promotional material on the changes for the Culver Community School buildings this summer, so seeing the glass block come down and seeing it replaced with new black smoked glass was a bit of a surprise. I was also a bit amused by the progression.
Forgive me for doing this extemporaneously without doing the research, but it’s not something that I felt mattered beyond my memory.
The elementary school was built before air conditioning and was built with windows that opened across the bottom, about 4′ above the floor, and glass block above those windows reaching up 10′, letting in light for the high ceiling classrooms. Google failed me on finding good images of this, but I found the images to the right and below on the Maxinkuckee History Past Tracker page showing pictures of the school from the 1952 as the new elementary school addition was first opened.
The glass block isn’t very clear in this picture, but there was another interior picture on that page that showed the glass block a bit clearer. I’ve included that one to the left. I don’t have pictures from Easterday Construction’s history at the school, but I know we did the north addition and struggled to match the glass block, brick and windows, as the Architect wanted continuity.
The progression of the remodels has always amused me. The construction of the middle school gym was completed at the same time or just before the remodeling of the elementary school in the early 2000’s. Two different architecture firms were employed. It would appear they didn’t talk…
Knowing how Architects often think, I’ve always postulated the following: The middle school Architect knew that splitting the elementary school and middle school was a big change. (There was lots of controversy moving the middle school from being attached to the elementary school to attaching it to the high school.) He wanted to tie the new gym construction to the high school to which it was being attached. Similar brick and metal banding was used to accomplish this. But to ease the transition and keep continuity for the children moving from the elementary school building to the middle school building, the glass block “theme” was used, even though use of glass block was somewhat dated at the time. The gym include a glass block clerestory and some other glass block accents. Meanwhile, working within his own silo, the elementary school Architect wanted to update the building look and knowing that glass block is notoriously bad for insulation and weathertightness over time, replaced the block with colored metal panels! Hahahahaha! He also changed the entrance to create a simulated nautical theme (think masts).
The remodel of the elementary school received a lot of hate. The new panels with the “rolling” accent lines deemed playful by the Architect were deemed gaudy by the community. (Picture to the left from the Culver Visitors Guide.) My Mother, Jackye Berger, was on the school board at the time and was somewhat incensed by the difference between what was approved and what was installed. The presentation to the school board was done using a full façade picture ( a long horizontally and short vertically picture of the entire east side of the building) with colored pencil (pastel) colors rather than the bright and shiny panels that were installed. The Architect later admitted that was intentional as they knew the bright panels wouldn’t get approved… As these things go, the Architect for the Culver Union Township Library addition then decided to carry the nautical theme and create a sail effect… which has since been removed/modified due to multiple issues…
So now we’re in a new era. The elementary school panels have been repainted in earth tones (very nice) and the glass block is going away at the middle school. Since I haven’t seen the plans, I don’t know if all of the glass block is going away, but it appears they are saving the vertical bands at the corners. Future generations will wonder why it’s there and a future school board will undoubtedly change that too.
Best Laid Plans… Culver Addition
August 28, 2023
Kevin Berger
Commentary, Culver
Community, Comprehensive Plan, Culver, Garden Court, government, Rants, The Dunes, Volunteering
The Best Laid Plans of Mice and Men… No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still go wrong with it. The saying is adapted from a line in “To a Mouse,” by Robert Burns: “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft a-gley.”
We were involved with finding a site for Culver Garden Court. It was challenging and we were pleased when Wade McGee stepped up to work with us. Those discussions began around 2010 with Culver Garden Court being completed in 2012. The picture to the right is from the “As-Built” survey of the Culver Garden Court property, dated 2-13-12.
One of the things included in the negotiation was a provision for ongoing and future access to the remainder of Mr. McGee’s property. The quality of PDFs 12 years ago wasn’t what it is now, so this may be a little hard to see. Squint and imagine… I’ll fill in the gaps.
From North to South, Culver Garden Court is across from Tampa Street, an improved alley and Batabano Street. Since we were carving out a new lot and creating a 2 lot subdivision, we set the north property line of Culver Garden Court in line with the centerline of Tampa Street. Then we provided a 50′ wide ingress/egress easement along the north property line. There were extensive discussions with the Plan Commission and Town Council about this. Even though this put the drive of Culver Garden Court off center from Tampa Street, it would be low traffic and not an issues. It was more important to give Mr. McGee the ability to line up with Tampa Street with any future development. The ingress/egress easement would effectively allow Right-of-Way for a future street extension. Until that time, we extended the Culver Garden Court drive to the west property line for Mr. McGee to use for property access.
Given the above, I was a bit surprised to see the plans for The Dunes showing “West Tampa Street” adjacent to the Culver Garden Court Drive. This seems to be the WORST of both worlds. Now we’ll have a misaligned Street right next to a driveway. On those odd occasions where someone is sitting at the West Tampa Street stop sign and someone is sitting waiting to come out of Culver Garden Court… who has the right of way? If they’re turning, they won’t be able to see the signal when it’s on the opposite side of the car. So many issues…
I am not looped in on these things. All I’ve seen is what’s presented in public meetings. The plan to the right is not the current plan, but the most recent plan I saw, presented at the Town Council meeting on August 22nd, still shows the misalignment of Tampa Street.
As I’ve stated here before, I don’t particularly have any issues with this project; Towns are either growing or dying, so better to grow. But it is a bit frustrating when the planning of the past is ignored. I don’t fault the developer of The Dunes for this. This is clearly a Town of Culver issue. The extension of Tampa Street needs to be re-evaluated and correct alignment should be pursued. And as stated here, a fix for the South Main Street/Davis Street intersection should be considered. It’s particularly frustrating to be serving on the current comprehensive plan steering committee and see the previous comprehensive plan ignored. (Ignored may be a strong word, since as previously stated, I’m not looped in, but it seems that way.)
Plans are just plans. Plans can and often have to change. That doesn’t mean the time and effort put into past plans should be disregarded without proper consideration.
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